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Thoughts About Stuff's avatar

But do they think there are dinosaurs roaming around the San Diego campus?

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J Scott's avatar

In CA I teach the new upper division math requirememt. 20% attrition normal.

There are Freshman admitted who cannot read, it is not a shock they fail at math. Not bad people, but they shouldn't be in university.

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Heimdall66's avatar

The agenda is to get them university degees irregardless of their capabilities and exclude those others from getting degrees to create to upper managerial and professional class the DEIB social engineers want to create. I was just out there in Cal and roaming the halls of a major corporation where the vision is complete and the clock is ticking on the situation unravelling from the lack of substance.

We've been boarded by Marxists and they're no longer lurking in the liberal arts but worked their way into all departments and run the institutions. I knew a EE PhD who lived in fear of being overheard in public having less than woke thoughts for the damage it would do to his career path.

Far Left infestation equals wide spread stupidity, and then worse- violence and mass death.

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Heimdall66's avatar

Well, when liberals couldn't bring the bottom up, rig the numbers, dumb the classes down enough, they decided to take the top performers down to create the "equality" they want. When smart kids escaped to AP classes they put the incapable disruptive kids in thise classes too. So, everyone is dumber, even the kids teachers in school are dumber than ever and only enforce rules upon the white and asian kids, letting the others disrupt and cheat.

Liberals are at fault bc it's what they wanted to create in their sick minds.

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Michael Sav's avatar

There’s a couple of things at play. I saw firsthand the significant decline in writing skills when I was a professor at a major university just before and during the pandemic. With language arts you can perhaps explain issues away by hand waving at personal tastes and preferences (although I would argue punctuation, spelling, and using verbs in sentences isn’t subjective). There was always an indication that standards were slipping.

I suspect this issue reflects another cause, pushing students through regardless of performance. With family and friends I’ve seen how being held back a grade due to poor performance is now a parental choice, and most times teachers won’t even offer it. Where one would see the educational disruption of COVID as making it easier to hold back a student who is understandably delayed the opposite is the case.

Resetting the relationship between teacher and parent regarding making assessments and decisions regarding student performance will be a necessary first step in solving this, but that is only a start.

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Nick Hounsome's avatar

I read something recently about IQ of graduates by major and it was even more scary - Some majors in soft subjects had an average graduate IQ under 90. I thought this couldn't be true at the time but it is consistent with this article :-(

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Kitten's avatar

Yes, I originally planned to include some shocking statistics along these lines but decided to save it for another article.

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Neural Foundry's avatar

The MPO solution feels like rearranging deck chairs when the core issue is removing objective measurment altogether. That 0.19 GPA spread between calculus-ready and basic algebra deficiency shows why holistic review without standardized tests creates unpredictable outcomes. Universities can prioritize access or maintain rigorous standars, but pretending you can do both without tradeoffs is how you end up teaching fractions to freshmen.

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Kitten's avatar

Interestingly enough, the report mentions how the math placement process does take SAT scores into account, so they do understand the utility of standardized testing, but only after admissions apparently.

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Keith's avatar

Being a Brit, when I read the word 'kids' I always assume we are talking about 7-year-olds. When the word refers to college students who must be 18-years-old at least i.e. people who typically have already had a couple of sexual partners, smoked dope and passed their driving license, the word 'kid' sounds not quite right, like describing a komodo dragon as 'a pet'.

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Kitten's avatar

I have mixed feelings about this usage myself, but my stance is that if 20 years olds insist on being infantilized to this degree I'm not going to stand in their way.

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Heimdall66's avatar

Great point.

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Thomas W. Dinsmore's avatar

University degrees stopped meaning anything a long time ago.

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Heimdall66's avatar

Zat is all parght of zee plan!

Muhahahaha…

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